I`m still confused about the trinity doctrine.Are you saying that God was but He cloned Jesus from himself and used Jesus to create all things. But since it was cloned off of God , it was still God?Or maybe not cloned , but somehow made from God ?
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Steve CurtisThat would be seperate drew36 minutes ago · LikeUnlike -
Drew Ayershe was 100% man and 100% God simultaneously36 minutes ago · LikeUnlike -
Drew Ayershow?35 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisSon on earth and God everywhere else35 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisThat is seperate35 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew AyersGod is not contained ‘spatially’…that is, God cannot be limited in space…35 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisI`m sayin , Jesus flesh was seperate from the spirit34 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew AyersHe literally became Man, but that body could not contain the vastness of God’s being and complexity…yet the scripture says, that he literally became man…34 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayersif you mean His flesh was real human flesh and not some sort of God flesh, then you are correct…he came from Women, as a literal human…33 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisNow drew , you either have to have 2 or there wasn`t a God in heaven33 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayersminus the man’s seed…God himself provided those chromosomes.33 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew AyersGod is the only God that is not contained spatially…so I don’t know what you mean…32 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew AyersDavid said that whereever he went or could possibly go, God was there…31 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve Curtisso there was no God , Jesus was the only God30 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayersthere is no escaping His presence…however if the Son of God was nothing more than humanity, then John 3;13 could not be true…cuz the Son would be limited to spatial location…30 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew AyersJesus the Son is delcared as the true God in 1 John 5;2030 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayersthe Father in John 17 and the H.S. in Acts 530 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayersone God existing as three persons i.e. Father, Son , H.S.29 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayersyou have me for ten more minutes bro. …bedtime…29 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisSo God didn`t become flesh , he put chromosomes in Marys womb29 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayersyes he did, that is how he became flesh…the Son is speaking to the Father in Hebrews 10 and states, “a body you have prepared for me”….28 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew AyersJohn 1;14, the Word ‘became’ flesh…27 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisWell if the son already exsisted , why did he have to go into a babys body?26 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisSo the son just went into a body?25 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayershe became a fetus that grew and was born, he became a human so as to be a sacrifice for our sins…He freely chose to do this, see Philippians 2;5-724 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayershe took on the form of a servant coming in the likeness of men…24 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisI didn`t know that just chromosomes would fertilize a womans egg.24 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayerswell what I mean is that what the man naturally would contribute was contributed by God…there was no semen in the equation, unless of course , you are mormon…22 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew AyersMary was a virgin when she birthed Jesus…21 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve Curtiswell a man produces semen, but you said God put the same thing there21 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew AyersMary’s conception was miraculous21 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayersnot natural, i.e. semen…21 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayerssemen is sperm mixed in the cowpers gland with a urine type secretion forming semen and I’m sure that God being Spirit does not have male genitals…20 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisBut you said what a man contributes , God did19 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew AyersI speaking biologically, not sexually…do you believe God had literal sex with Mary?17 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew AyersJesus did not have a Human FAther…14 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew AyersHis conception was miraculous…14 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayersand Martin Luther King Jr. did not believe in the virgin birth…14 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayersnor the Trinity…13 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisDrew , the same way he put the whatever you said in her , he could put the same semen in her . Cause I`m sure he had to create the chromosomes13 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew AyersJesus had all His chromosomes…13 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayerssemen comes from a male genital…do you think God had/has male genitals?12 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisI`m saying that God put created semen in Mary. you say he put chromosomes12 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayerssemen is the product of copulation ( sex ) and is specific to human sexual intercourse. Semen is the vehicle that carries the sperm to the female egg. Thousands of the sperm, perhaps millions are killed by the time a single sperm makes it to the egg. God caused Mary to conceive, not through the natural means of copulation, ejaculatin via orgasm, etc. Her conception was miraculous therefore not natural…11 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayersbehind what we think is natural among us humans is God in His sovereignty creating each conception via His will…none of us are accidents…so when it came to Jesus’ conception he could skip all the natural methods of sex…he provided the necessary building blocks for the fetus to ‘become’…8 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisDrew , all that you have explained to me tonight is the most twisted unbelievable , confusing doctrine I have ever heard. It doesn`t make sense . They are 3 , but inseperable. But yet they were seperate, flesh and spirit. And for the son …to pre exsist but yet become flesh , but in reality he did not become flesh , because you said that God created chromosomes in Marys womb and a body was made , in which the son some how got into the body .This is really weird. Is there any body with me?See More8 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew AyersSteve, I’m scratching my head here because the mystery of the incarnation is for the Oneness and trinitarian alike…We’ve not talked about God and how he exists, I’ve been trying my best to convince you that God and Mary didn’t get it on…so who is twisted?6 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayerstell me how God had sex with Mary?5 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayersdo you believe in the virgin Birth?4 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisDrew listen to yourself . If he was already a son , why would God have to create building blocks for a fetus , when you said the son became flesh . If he already exsisted , how could he become flesh , when you have already claimed that God …Put chromosomes in Mary womb. That would n`t be , becoming flesh , that would be God creating a body and the pre exsisting son living in the body. But if that happened ( which it didn`t ) that would be no suffering for us , a spirit in a body is no suffering for the spirit.See More2 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayersbefore I move further, I must know if you accept the virgin birth?about a minute ago · LikeUnlike
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True conception , God meant what he said , You shall conceive. So God created semen ( in which you dont think God has the Power to do ) and he put it in Mary`s womb and she conceived a baby. Just like God said. You said God put Chromosomes in her , why would you not believe he could put semen in her.? but thats the way Jesus came into exsistence.6 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisThats why Jesus was called the only begotten son , Fro the Fathers seed. or he could not have been begotten.4 minutes ago · LikeUnlike -
Steve CurtisShe was still a virgin , because she had never had sex with no man.4 minutes ago · LikeUnlike -
Drew AyersLOL! Steve you are killing me…are you serious? Have you ever had Biology classes?2 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew AyersHow did he get that ‘semen’ up there?2 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayersman, I gotta go to bed, but just remember, the problem of the incarnation, is for both Oneness and Trinitarians…about a minute ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayers….LOL and where did the Father get his semen from?….a few seconds ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew AyersSteve believes that the Father put literal semen in Mary! Someone help us!…2 seconds ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew , how did he get the chromosomes up there.14 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisWhy do you think God couldn`t create semen, he created the whole man , he couldn`t create semen? com on drew.12 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisDrew , you said that God put chromosomes in her womb . But you cant believe he could create saemen and put it in her.11 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayersthe same way the basic building block of life are. God’s sovereignty…Steve the Bible doesn’t say, but semen is specific to the male species….10 minutes ago · LikeUnlike -
Steve CurtisYes , I have studied biology and the blood and many things. Thats why I know what Im talking about.10 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew AyersMan I can’t tell…explain to me the cowpers gland, the epidydomous tubes, testes etc…all of which involves NATURAL conception…Mary’s conception was miraculous not natural….not at all….8 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisSo drew , you dont believe that the great God that created all things, could not create male semen and put it in marys womb , or better yet , just speak it in her womb.7 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew AyersSteve you aren’t getting it man, if God did not need a male genital, then He didn’t need semen…the two go hand and hand…6 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisThe miraculous conception was that she became pregnant while being a virgin.4 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisBut you need the seed to fertilize the egg drew, your the one not getting it.3 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayersand pregnant by non-natural means…good nite bro…2 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisDrew , you are limiting God big time in saying he couldn`t create semen. Wow!!!!!!2 minutes ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew AyersSteve, He could have done anything, including having literal sex with her like the Mormons say, but He didn’t because He is God, He could just fertalize the egg without a human spermata! Dust off that ole biology book!a few seconds ago · LikeUnlike
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Steve CurtisDrew , God cant speak seed in a womans womb? Talk about putting limitations on a big God.a few seconds ago · LikeUnlike
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Drew Ayers good nite bro…can’t wait to see how the brothers react to this one…
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Drew,
Steve is obviously right, beyond all things reasonable. You keep on Steve. The only thing more dangerous than you is the idiot who will believe you. i.e. the idiot who sends you money. Signed, Anonymous. Bahahahaaa!!!!!!!